Saying no to millions. Building something real instead - Alex Holliman, Climbing Trees & Oliver Zenglein, The Boutique Agency
Svetlana Kazak Svetlana Kazak

Saying no to millions. Building something real instead - Alex Holliman, Climbing Trees & Oliver Zenglein, The Boutique Agency

Alex Holliman and Oliver Zenglein run performance marketing agencies in different countries. They've both turned away millions in business. Not because they couldn't win it. But because they wouldn't. This episode is about what happens when two founders decide that profit without purpose isn't actually growth - and how finding each other made the lonely road feel less isolating.

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You either make money or make a difference. The lie everyone believes. - Clare Sweeney, Keepace Consulting
Svetlana Kazak Svetlana Kazak

You either make money or make a difference. The lie everyone believes. - Clare Sweeney, Keepace Consulting

Clare Sweeney spent years in commercial - CRM, FMCG, brand development. Then in 2012, a friend's son received a life-limiting diagnosis and Clare volunteered a year to help set up a charity. When she went back to agency, she couldn't feel the same about it anymore. So she built Keepace Consulting - proving the lie that you choose between profit and purpose. They don't compete. They multiply.

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Product + personality. That's what wins pitches! - Lennon Kelly, M3
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Product + personality. That's what wins pitches! - Lennon Kelly, M3

They pitched against ten other agencies for West Midlands Metro. They beat Midlands and national agencies for MG Motor UK. And they did it all from Shropshire and Birmingham. Lennon Kelly helped make that happen - and he had Coca-Cola, Unilever and Nokia on his CV when he chose to do it.

Lennon Kelly is Client Services Director at M3, a West Midlands agency that's grown from £4 million to over £6.5 million, expanding to Manchester, Dubai, Cardiff and Bristol. But when Lennon joined in 2019, M3 was already punching above its weight with global brands like MG and Harley-Davidson on the roster. What he saw wasn't a regional limitation - he saw a unique proposition that others had missed.

Most people assume you need to be in London to work at the highest level. Lennon spent his formative years proving that wrong. At 28, just a year into agency life, he was put in boardrooms with Unilever. He worked on Nokia's 2310 relaunch. He got exposure to GSK's medical research alongside Aquafresh campaigns. And Coca-Cola - the biggest brand in the world - taught him something he's never forgotten: the responsibility is huge, and it makes you push yourself.

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People trust people, not logos - Stef Lait, Sphere of Influence
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People trust people, not logos - Stef Lait, Sphere of Influence

Agencies spend millions on paid media every year, yet the most powerful channel they have often sits unused. Not a platform. Not an ad format. But the people at the top of the business. Founder-led and executive-led influence isn't about becoming a creator. It's about trust, credibility, and showing up where decisions are made.

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"AI is not a technology challenge. It's a people challenge" - Jonathan Healey, IDHL
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"AI is not a technology challenge. It's a people challenge" - Jonathan Healey, IDHL

Jonathan Healey has been with the same agency for 18 years - through acquisition, growth, becoming MD at 33, and now stepping into Group Technology Director at IDHL. Most people jump between companies chasing the next thing. Jonathan stayed, evolved, and redefined himself at each stage. This episode proves some careers aren't built by starting companies - they're built by staying when it matters and taking responsibility when the moment demands it.

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What buyers really look for in agencies - Jeremy Williams, The Agency Coach
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What buyers really look for in agencies - Jeremy Williams, The Agency Coach

Jeremy Williams sold his B2B marketing agency for £11 million, then spent three years in the earn-out trenches. Now he coaches agencies toward exits of their own - and he's distilled everything into seven principles. Revenue growth, profit growth, succession planning, blue chip clients, proprietary IP, transparent numbers, and that cherry on top. This Study Edition reveals the framework buyers actually use when they write the check.

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What happens when the wrong path keeps teaching you the right lessons - Rob Sherwood, The Digital Maze
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What happens when the wrong path keeps teaching you the right lessons - Rob Sherwood, The Digital Maze

Rob Sherwood spent years certain he knew what he wanted - until every door he chose led nowhere. Marketing placement? Boring. Telecoms sales? Dry. Amazon FBA? Catastrophic. Then a friend offered an agency role he'd already turned down once, and everything finally made sense. This episode proves the best career moves are often the ones you don't plan.

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When You Message Your Dream Client and They Actually Hire You - Daisy Whitehouse, Down at the Social
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When You Message Your Dream Client and They Actually Hire You - Daisy Whitehouse, Down at the Social

What if landing your dream client was as simple as being honest about wanting to work with them? Daisy Whitehouse proved it works. One DM to her dream client led to the Boddingtons campaign years later. Thirteen years running Down at the Social taught her that PR with purpose beats PR for PR's sake - and challenging clients matters more than saying yes to revenue.

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Nobody's talking about humans - James Holden, Holden Thinking
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Nobody's talking about humans - James Holden, Holden Thinking

Everyone's obsessing about AI transformation… Which tools to use, which processes to automate, which competitors are moving faster…. But James Holden saw what everyone else was missing: it's not about the technology. It's about helping humans flourish alongside it.

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Why painful calls become powerful strategy - Dan Hodges, Conscious
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Why painful calls become powerful strategy - Dan Hodges, Conscious

What happens when you've been the client avoiding account management calls because they're painful, then you join the agency and find yourself delivering the exact same calls you used to dread? Most people would defend the system. Dan Hodges changed it completely.

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Imposter syndrome, gaslighting, and the power of saying no - Aggie Meroni, White Bee Digital
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Imposter syndrome, gaslighting, and the power of saying no - Aggie Meroni, White Bee Digital

"The more you push back, the more respect you get." Aggie Meroni built White Bee Digital on a counterintuitive truth: boundaries don't lose clients, they earn trust. Why she caps clients at ten, fires anyone who touches the ad account without permission, and refuses to perform success when the reality is crying business owners and cash flow anxiety.

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The invisible work that holds everything together - Noémie El-Maawiy, Minty
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The invisible work that holds everything together - Noémie El-Maawiy, Minty

Operations managers are translators—speaking both the language of creative teams and business metrics. Noémie El-Maawiy reveals how she's transforming Minty Digital from operational chaos to sustainable growth, why structure doesn't kill creativity (it protects it), and what happens when founders escape firefighting mode.

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From guesswork to growth: How data visibility transformed a professional services firm - Matt Ville and Laura Hudspith, Hiyield
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From guesswork to growth: How data visibility transformed a professional services firm - Matt Ville and Laura Hudspith, Hiyield

When Hiyield prepared for Employee Ownership Trust transition, they discovered an uncomfortable truth: you can't ask 25 people to think like owners when only three people see the numbers. Matt Ville and Laura Hudspeth share the messy reality of implementing data visibility while developers just wanted to "crack on with the work"—and why they wish they'd started sooner.

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Joy, judgement & the AI jungle - Sharon Austin, PKF Francis Clark
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Joy, judgement & the AI jungle - Sharon Austin, PKF Francis Clark

In this thought-provoking second episode of That Moment, host Helga Saraiva from Supo tackles the question keeping every professional services leader awake: how do we stay relevant when AI can deliver technical answers faster than humans? Meet Sharon Austin, Partner at PKF Francis Clark, as she reveals why the future belongs to those who can read what clients aren't saying - and why human judgment becomes more valuable, not less, in an automated world.

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